Jesus Was A Socialist
I’m not a religious person, but equally, I’m not anti-religion either.
My stance on God is similarly non-committal.
I don’t believe in a higher power, but nor I disbelieve in a higher power.
I guess I’m an agnostic.
The fact of the matter is, nobody knows about the latter and it’s impossible to accurately quantify the value of the former.
Of course some delusional souls from both sides of the debate who don’t understand the difference between a belief and a fact, will insist that they know for sure God either does or doesn’t exist.
And likewise, people who are deeply religious will insist that it’s a force for good in the same manner as people who are fiercely anti-religion will declare it’s harmful and counter productive to the well being and advancement of mankind.
It’s very easy to pick one side and start to amass evidence to support your beliefs, but it’s ultimately pointless.
People who share your point of view will continue to do so, and people who don’t, won’t be swayed.
Religion Eases Suffering
There are tens of thousands of people out there helping those in need in the name of their religion.
There have been studies that suggest religious people tend to be happier and that prayer has similar benefits to meditation.
Also, religion gives hope in the shape of delivering a sense of purpose to hundreds of millions of people where often there would be none. And hope is a powerful force.
Religions can also bond people together and create a sense of community, commonality and belonging.
Religion Creates Suffering
On the flip side, millions have lost their lives fighting for their own particular religion and millions more just because they had a certain belief that others didn’t approve of.
There have been many documented cases of senior people within most (probably all) religions abusing their power.
And it has been shown to be racist, sexist and homophobic in the past.
I say in the past, but sadly some of that shit is still going on.
Of course I’m generalizing. Maybe your particular religion has no history of racism whatsoever and that’s great. But few, if any, of the major religions are squeaky clean.
And the reason that’s the case is because all major religions are led by people and all people have flaws.
Just because a person has risen up the ranks of their religion doesn’t mean they can’t be greedy, selfish, egotistical and uncaring. Scan the history books if you doubt that.
For two years now I have had the title of this post in a document where I jot such ideas down. Many times I have looked at it and thought about writing it and many times I got cold feet.
And the reason I got could feet is because I know that some people will take offense at the headline and not really care what I say.
Then yesterday I stumbled upon the cartoon you see on your right and I reminded myself that taking offense is a personal choice and not one I’m able to dictate.
I’ve built my business around being as honest and transparent as I can.
What you see with me is pretty much what you get. As such, some people will like me and many will not.
Talking Life Coaching And Religion
Last year I had the pleasure of working with an ordained Methodist minister. We talked somewhat about religion and the message of Jesus Christ.
Something he said really stuck with me and it went something like this;
“Jesus didn’t try and convert people. He focused his energy on those people who understood and embraced his teachings and wanted to follow”
I’m not sure if I knew that and had forgotten, or I never knew in the first place, but nonetheless, it was fascinating to hear.
It was equally interesting to hear the Minister was as frustrated by the actions of some extreme people on the evangelical side of Christianity as I was.
Extremism is seldom useful or productive.
I have no idea how accurate the Bible is. I prefer to think of it as a book of self development metaphors as opposed to literal events, but that is just my opinion.
It is neither right nor wrong, it’s merely an opinion.
I know some people will be aghast at that, because they prefer to believe the Bible is literally the word of God, so if that’s you, we shall amicably (hopefully) agree to differ.
Alas, I’m no theology student and have never attended an hours bible study in my life, but I did go to a Protestant school that required R.E. (religious education) classes and trips to Church for many years.
As such, I was exposed to Christian philosophy on a regular basis, and here’s my take.
Jesus Was A Socialist
Jesus was most definitely a socialist and was a lot closer to being a communist than a capitalist.
Imagine he were around today and in a position of influence.
Firstly, and most certainly, he would be ridiculed (by the far right) and made an outcast, or even worse, Baker acted (sectioned, for those of you in the UK).
He wouldn’t be opposing Obamacare, he’d probably be more likely to be pushing for even greater reform. And he’d be sickened to see the single biggest source of bankruptcy in such a wealthy country is medical bill debt
He wouldn’t be banning homeless people from sleeping in their cars, like Los Angeles has just done.
He’d be insisting we build more shelters to house the 85,000 people who have nowhere to sleep each night.
Note: There are closer to 95,ooo homeless in Los Angeles county, and less than 10,000 places for them to seek refuse each night.
And similarly, he’d not be smiling at the people of Orlando for allowing the implementation of a law that bans people from occasionally gathering in local parks to distribute food to the homeless of the city.
He wouldn’t be happy with huge tax breaks for multi-billion dollar corporations or seeing wealthy people employ expensive and clever accountants to avoid paying their fair share of tax.
He’d not be on Pinterest posting glib comments like, “Remember to pay your taxes this year so that the Government can give your hard earned money to people who don’t want to work”.
Equally he wouldn’t be supporting the gun lobby, looking to invade other countries, complaining incessantly about immigrants and he wouldn’t be happy with an education system that is heavily tilted toward those with money and away from those with none.
Jesus As President
And imagine if he ran for President.
Wow, he wouldn’t stand a chance!! He would be painted as some left wing nut job out of touch with reality.
I can see the attack ads now.
“Would you vote for a long-haired hippy who wants to heal the sick, teach the uneducated and feed the hungry with YOUR money? – Whatever next, the dismantling of the military????”
So we have this bizarre juxtaposition of people who support capitalism, are ok with the poor and the sick figuring things out for themselves, like to see the US wave the military big stick and want to accumulate as much wealth as possible, pretending to be followers of somebody who was the total antithesis of all that.
That just seems weird to me.
How can anybody be a Christian (i.e. a follower of Jesus Christ) yet belittle so many (and maybe even all) of his beliefs with their words and actions?
Somebody please explain this to me, because I just don’t get it.
One final thing. I have ZERO problem with people who are religious, and I have ZERO problem with people who aren’t.
Your Turn
It would be easy ( as I alluded to) to say that publishing this post had me nervous, but in actuality it really didn’t, even though I thought it would.
I know a few people will hate me and think I worship goats in my spare time, and whow knows, maybe I do. But seriously, who cares?
Feel free to agree, disagree, question my sanity in the comments.
One final note: I know that there are millions of Christians that none of the above applies to, I just wish they were as vocal as the extreme outliers who dominate the debate.


Hey Tim, great post, hit the nail on the head i reckon. I don’t push religion on my children but if they do come asking questions later I will show them your post as it very well written. keep up the good work :-)
A wise man not to do so Mick!
Jesus IS a socialist, great post, is, i joined your email list, not sure if i can afford your services, but i got something on my blog that might help the process. Love is not an ownership issue, it’s a sharing issue, and as a world, sharing is hard, as we all know. amen
Thanks for signing up BW!
Tim, love this uncontroversial post where you tie religion, politics, and Jesus into one nice package and send it out into the world. Also, it’s very uncontroversial that you try to pigeonhole Jesus as a socialist, communist, liberal v. conservative rubric. How many protesters are standing around your house as we speak? Or did they all opt to stand in front of their computer screens in protest?
Jesus probably wouldn’t have cared how we label him. He was trying to teach people about love and to live their lives according to divine law. He would have probably thought labels created tension and division so would have told us to forget all that labeling/classification/political angling and love one another and treat others how we want to be treated.
This is fascinating to me Vishunu because you know me as well or better than 99% of my readers. Equally, I highly respect your opinion.
I know that Jesus wasn’t really a Socialist, and that for the most part, what you say is true.
I guess I could have opted for a headline of “Jesus possibly wasn’t a capitalist as many of his current day followers are” but who would have read that?
In his actions he was in many ways a far left liberal/socialist, even heaven forbid, a communist, but you’re right (I think as we are all guessing here and have no way of really knowing) I doubt he’d like labels.
And that is the whole point of the post. It was a juxtaposition between how the right like to see him and how the left could see him, if they so chose.
I’m grateful for your comment (seriously I am) because it makes me think I was a tad pompous and didn’t explain my point at all clearly enough.
BTW, we should talk, I have a great (in my mind) idea for a video series together ;)
I’m pretty sure Jesus would have been more about people CHOOSING to do these things on their own for others, and I highly doubt he’d want to make laws to force people to do as such. I don’t think he’d support very much legislation like that.
And as far as the gun lobby. I recall in Luke, Jesus said, ‘Sell your cloak and buy a sword.’
Right, I’m sure he’d favor anarchy instead, which is what would ensue without laws.
And a quick Google check of that quote seems to suggest most theologians agree that it wasn’t for violent purposes.
But ya know whatever, people will snatch at snippets to support an opinion they have already formed.
But maybe he did mean that and maybe if we updated it he’d say “Hey bro sell your clothes and buy an AK47 because the world will be a safer place’
How is it that you can quote that and not mention the dozens of times he talked about compassion, loving thy neighbor, turning the other cheek etc?
Seriously, it seems fucking ridiculous and delusional, to me anyway.
Well, there is a bit of a difference between laws that force people to do things, and laws that punish people for doing things. Because, lets be honest, that’s what the laws that prevent anarchy really are. An example would be speed limits. When a stretch of highway in Texas removed speed limits, there were a few people who went above and beyond, but for the most part, people stayed at speeds that they were comfortable with, despite not being told to go a certain speed. Speed limits don’t stop people from speeding, they just punish people that do speed. So, would Jesus , as depicted in the bible, want to create legislation that forces people to be charitable? Personally, I highly doubt it. Will no laws create anarchy? Well, the definition of anarchy, means no laws, so I guess in that context. But as far as laws keeping anarchy at bay, that’s a little doubtful. Take Portugal. Decriminalize drugs, and all of a sudden, drug use dropped. The laws didn’t stop people from doing drugs, they just punished those who did use them, which then just created a bigger system of people who use them. Jesus would of course not be for people using drugs, but I don’t see him creating laws to stop and or punish people for doing things he wouldn’t personally do himself. He would be about teaching communities to help communities. Not setting up Governments to protect and help everyone, while coercing anyone that doesn’t agree.
But all that wall of text, my point being isn’t that I really doubt Jesus would be a socialist. And this is coming from an atheist, so I don’t exactly have skin in that game.
And as far as the quote, I had meant to add a smiley face because I was mostly being facetious. Just as anyone should be when having an argument like this about a person described in one book, followed by people who believe it is 100% word of God, and disavowed by people who believe it is 100% rubbish and in no way true or even possible.
Very briefly, that’s cherry picking with the Portugal example, the same did not happen in the Netherlands and the UK.
Good point on the last bit!
Well, Portugal would be the biggest example, and the most pertinent, as they decriminalized ALL drugs. I don’t recall the UK doing anything like that, but care to refresh my memory? And as far as Netherlands. That was a start, but things went a little bad there, because they were an island of drugs among a sea of laws. So I’d expect there to be problems, when it becomes the drug tourism capital of the world. You can’t blame lack of laws for that, but an abundance of laws all around them.
When done right, less laws is always better then more laws. You’re a life coach, I think you understand how intrinsic and extrinsic motivation would work in the populous. And force and coercion is never a direction for the betterment of mankind. Because no matter how much people want to believe it, people are all different, and we won’t all think the way someone wants us to think and behave. We all mold the world and ourselves around us.
About 10 or so years ago the UK took cannabis that was at the time a Class C drug and decriminalized it.
The thought process was it would free up a lot of Police time to focus on Class A’s.
Class A’s – coke, heroin, crack, ecstasy etc
Class B’s – amphetamine, most prescription drugs etc
So it wasn’t technically legal and if you were dealing you’d get busted, but possession was no longer a crime.
Usage went up and there were some worrying trends with increased psychosis (btw, this is still a hot topic and some research suggests it doesn’t cause psychosis in people who weren’t already prone to it).
When the Government started research they found that the average weed in the 2000’s compared to the 60’s was 40 times more potent in terms of THC.
I left the UK when this was being discussed in Parliament – purely coincidental ;) but I believe the law was revoked and it was once again criminalized.
There was most definitely a spike in demand as has been the case in Washington and Colorado with the latter running out!
Actually from my perspective Jesus was the first Reform Jew. His mission wasn’t to start a new religion; he was trying to institute what he saw as much needed reforms in the Judaism of his day. I imagine if he were to walk the earth today he would wonder what had happened to us. I doubt he would go to a church; he would begin with what was familiar–a synagogue. Finally, if we all actually practiced the tenets of the faiths to which we belong, the world would be a very different place and most of these conversations would be unnecessary.
“Finally, if we all actually practiced the tenets of the faiths to which we belong, the world would be a very different place and most of these conversations would be unnecessary.
I couldn’t agree more!
I’ve always thought he studied buddhism..
I once read a great book by Thich Nhat Hahn called ‘Living Buddha, Living Christ’ in which he studies the parallels between the two.
They’re were a LOT, a helluva lot!
Very interesting post, Easter was the perfect occasion for a read like this.
Thanks for writing, I really enjoyed this :)
Cool, but did you agree?
You already know this: going to church doesn’t make someone a Christian any more than standing in their garage makes them a car. Nobody reads, these days, so very few people ever bother to pick up their bibles and find out what kind of guy Jesus really was. (I’d follow that guy anywhere.) They hear the select verses their leader wants them to hear, when it’s convenient. They learn to pick and choose.
Your point is valid (and funny), and if people are offended, maybe it’s because it’s hitting close to home. (Maybe it’s just my bible, but Jesus says followers are to love others, not judge them.) And if you care to worship goats, that’s cool. Especially if you’re gonna have a barbecue (I mean, sacrifice), and invite your readers? LOL! :)
“going to church doesn’t make someone a Christian any more than standing in their garage makes them a car”
Awesome!